Future directions for MusicBrainz

I’ve returned from my much needed vacation in Iceland and now I am ready to get back to working on MusicBrainz. While I was gone, a few shouting matches and arguments over what MusicBrainz should be in the future erupted, so its clear that its high time to give a general update on how MusicBrainz … Continue reading “Future directions for MusicBrainz”

I’ve returned from my much needed vacation in Iceland and now I am ready to get back to working on MusicBrainz. While I was gone, a few shouting matches and arguments over what MusicBrainz should be in the future erupted, so its clear that its high time to give a general update on how MusicBrainz is doing and where we’re headed in the future.

First, lets review what we’ve accomplished in the past 4 months: 1) we have more server capacity in a new home with better bandwidth 2) A new fingerprinting system with a new partner 3) A new search engine 4) A new web service. If you would’ve asked me how long all these would take to turn into a reality 4 months ago, I would’ve told you 6 – 8 months time. So, we’ve made great strides this year alone!

Now that we’ve knocked off a number of serious problems and improved the overall service, the community looks towards the next set of problems that we need to tackle. At first glance, it may seem that all we have are problems and that there are tons of people who are constantly complaining that MusicBrainz is not this or that. Personally, I think this is interesting and not alarming — these “problems” show that people care about the project. None of these problems put MusicBrainz in danger of vanishing tomorrow. I think the biggest problem right now is that the future for the project is not clear now that we’ve implemented many large improvements over the last few months. This blog post and more to follow next week should hopefully address these questions from a high level perspective:

Q: Is MusicBrainz a service aimed at people who wish to clean up (tag) their music collection or is the goal to create a music encyclopedia?

A: Yes! The long term goal of MusicBrainz is to capture all relevant knowledge about music and create a comprehensive music encyclopedia. The goal is also to create killer tagging applications that take this wealth of knowledge and let users apply it to their own music collections.

Thus, when people edit the database, the focus should be to capture the information as accurately as possible, respecting artist intent and trying to work with our guidelines when artist intent is not clear. The focus should not be to capture information such that music collections can get tagged cleanly with the data!

That is not to say that we don’t care about tagger users — on the contrary! Tagger users who make an occasional $10 donation are the people who pay our bills — they keep the servers on and allow the foundation to have an official place of business!

To make both the encyclopedia minded users and tagger users happy in one giant sandbox, I’d like to present a rough road-map where MusicBrainz will be headed in the near future:

Next server update

Server update with UI improvements, nomenclature (album -> release, moderate -> edit) fixes, album editor, XHTML support and more. This is likely to happen mid to end of May and driven by the hard efforts of Keschte.

Picard user interface improvements

Picard users currently fall into two categories — those who hate it and those who love it. If you don’t like drag and drop and you focus mainly on tracks, you are not likely to enjoy Picard. The user interface improvements presented here will be implemented so that the UI can be used without drag and drop and either in a track or album oriented mode. Which exact model we’ll pursue is unclear at this point, but it will likely be one of the variants proposed there. The overall goal is to make the old MusicBrainz Tagger irrelevant as we prepare to put TRM out to pasture — all tagger users should be happy with Picard.

TaggerScript in Picard

TaggerScript is the nick name we’ve given a much discussed, but not yet specified feature that will allow tagger users more control over how their music collection gets organized. The idea is that with TaggerScript, users will be able to extract information from AdvancedRelationships as well as the usual pieces of release data and then shove that data into the tags/filenames of their collection with a lot more flexibility and control that we currently allow. TaggerScript will allow tagger oriented users to extract the data they care about from the encyclopedia oriented database.

Next generation schema

This is the much discussed and much anticipated major upgrade to the MusicBrainz database. The idea behind this is to allow us to handle releases, classical music and many other facets of music metadata much better than we can today. At Summit #7 we worked for 14 hours to create this new schema and its a great start for defining the goal for a more powerful version of MusicBrainz. However, simply because this new schema exists, it does not mean that we will implement this as it currently stands on the wiki page. We need to spend a lot more time thinking about this — but this first version serves as a great stepping stone for eventually getting to our goal.

The most serious problem with this schema is that it will take a huge amount of effort for us implement it. Essentially, it amounts to rewriting most of MusicBrainz. Think one person working on it full time for 12 months — maybe even 24 months. There are a number of problems with this:

  1. If the dev team went away for 12 – 24 months to work on the next version of MusicBrainz, the current users would lose interest in MB due to the lack of progress. If the end-users cannot witness progress being made, they lose interest. So, devs cannot just work on the next gen schema, they also have to go back and fix other issues that arise. That pushes things out even further. 36 months? Ugh.
  2. MusicBrainz is still being coded by volunteers, and volunteers work on personal motivation. If a person is not motivated to work on a huge project for months on end without pay, they will lose interest. Moving from our current schema to the next schema is going to be rough work and a lot of it. I’m sure we don’t have enough volunteers to make this happen!
  3. For large projects like these, when you finally get done with the project it may no longer be what you need when its finished. It will be what you needed 12 – 24 months ago, not what you need today.

So, then how to we proceed with this mess? There are a number of options on how to proceed — we should attempt to work on all of these approaches at the same time:

  1. Work to sell more data licenses. This non-trivial income will then allow us to hire developers to work on the MB server. Paid people can be properly motivated to work on longer projects.
  2. Work to figure out how to break the schema upgrade into 3-4 smaller upgrades, each taking a 2-3 months to complete, thus making visible progress on a continual basis. [ insert wild hand waving here — I have no clue how to accomplish this ]
  3. Possibly create more tools, abstraction layers or a new moderation system that will overall reduce the total amount work needed to move to a new schema. Here too, we’re brainstorming about how to proceed — nothing concrete has emerged yet.

As you may have guessed, we’re not certain on how to proceed with this new schema — we have a lot to think about and a lot of discussions to hold. Certain is that we will not see this next generation schema come to fruition this year. If you’re holding your breath on the new schema and you cannot deal with MusicBrainz’ shortcomings for at least another year, you may want to find another approach to satisfy your music metadata cravings.

One thing I do know for sure is that I am excited to continue working on MusicBrainz. We’ve accomplished a lot in the last few months and we’re not about to stop working hard on this project.

Onward ho!

Technorati Tags: , ,

New advanced relationship: MySpace artist URL

(In an effort to spread the news about changes to the Advanced Relationship link types, I’m posting this and hopefully future changes here). Lukas has just added an Advanced Relationship that lets users link artists to their MySpace pages: forward: has a MySpace page at reverse: is a MySpace page for description: This relationship type … Continue reading “New advanced relationship: MySpace artist URL”

(In an effort to spread the news about changes to the Advanced Relationship link types, I’m posting this and hopefully future changes here).

Lukas has just added an Advanced Relationship that lets users link artists to their MySpace pages:

  • forward: has a MySpace page at
  • reverse: is a MySpace page for
  • description: This relationship type can be used to link a MusicBrainz artist to the equivalent entry in MySpace. Please, use URLs in format http://www.myspace.com/[artist]

Technorati Tags: ,

New fingerprinting questions answered

As promised, here and some answers to most common questions: “Is there a contact at MusicDNS?” — Yes, use this link. A contact us page will be added soon. “libofa doesn’t build on OS X” — the first rev, 0.9.1 with the first patch included will be posted later today. Stay tuned — this should … Continue reading “New fingerprinting questions answered”

As promised, here and some answers to most common questions:

  • “Is there a contact at MusicDNS?” — Yes, use this link. A contact us page will be added soon.
  • “libofa doesn’t build on OS X” — the first rev, 0.9.1 with the first patch included will be posted later today. Stay tuned — this should also build on OS X.
  • “Are there plans to implement the Creative Commons sampling license options?” — Yes. I’ll add that and the Public Domain ‘license’ later today.
  • “What does PUID stand for?” — They are Portable Unique Identifiers.
  • “How do I get a PUID into the fingerprinting system?” — Right now you need to use the MusicIP Mixer (free) to analyze the track to get a PUID generated for any tracks that do not have PUIDs yet. PUIDs should become visible to MusicBrainz within 24 hours. This is far from perfect, but all we could get done for now. We’ll improve this before too long.
  • “It’s nice that we have an alternative to TRM now, but I’m disappointed that this is a one-way relationship.” — Thats not quite accurate. Our partnership is focused on creating a balanced relationship, but there is a limit to what we were able to accomplish for this initial release. We’ll be working on improving this soon.
  • “When will a version for OS X be available?” — Hard to say. One of the underlying toolkits still has a number of bugs that prevent us from releasing it on the Mac. Hopefully I’ll have some time to look into this soon.
  • “Maybe an obvious question (or answer), but does this excellent news mean I’ll have to re-tag all my files?” — No. The fingerprints are only used to resolve the proper metadata. Once the tagger identifies the right track, it writes MusicBrainz ids to the files, which have not changed.
  • “Since the accoustic fingerprint is opensource is there a role that MusicIP NEEDS to play?” — There is a server component to this as well but that is not open source. Without the server, the client portion is less than useful.
  • “How well does it compared to TRM?” — It should have a lot fewer duplicates and collisions than TRM. But really, time will tell. Let’s start using it and we’ll see how well it works. I do know that the PUIDs won’t have to be trimmed to keep the service alive, so this is already a drastic improvement.

Let me know if there are more questions!

(Update: The support link is now fixed.)

Technorati Tags: ,

New fingerprinting technology available now!

I’m pleased to announce that as of right now, we have a new acoustic fingerprint provider! MusicBrainz has teamed up with MusicIP (formerly Predixis) and has integrated their MusicDNS service into MusicBrainz’ Picard Tagger. Version 0.7.0-beta1 is available for download right now! This partnership with MusicIP promises to be beneficial for both MusicBrainz and MuiscIP. … Continue reading “New fingerprinting technology available now!”

I’m pleased to announce that as of right now, we have a new acoustic fingerprint provider! MusicBrainz has teamed up with MusicIP (formerly Predixis) and has integrated their MusicDNS service into MusicBrainz’ Picard Tagger. Version 0.7.0-beta1 is available for download right now!

This partnership with MusicIP promises to be beneficial for both MusicBrainz and MuiscIP. The rough overview of our new relationship looks like this:

MusicIP provides:

  • Free fingerprint lookup services for official MusicBrainz projects. The fingerprint services are entirely hosted by MusicIP, which removes the burden of hosting service that is only tangential to our mission.
  • A GPL/APL licensed fingerprinting client library (Open Fingerprint Architecture Library aka libofa) that is ready to integrate into new applications today!
  • Other projects that wish to integrate fingerprinting services into their applications will need to sign up with the MusicDNS service. This service is free for non-profit projects (musicdns.org), and price-tiered for commercial projects such that even small startups have access. For more details, please visit MusicDNS.org.
  • $10,000 held in escrow for MusicBrainz, plus contractual commitment to supply hardware resources should MusicIP exit the fingerprinting business. This is designed to allow us to continue the service should they decide to stop providing the service.
  • a 10% cut on all income earned from fingerprinting queries where MusicBrainz metadata is provided via the MusicDNS service.
  • 800K acoustic fingerprint ids (PUIDs) that which are already loaded into our DB.
  • Travel, lodging and registration costs for myself to attend the SXSW

    conference, where all of this is being announced and released.
  • Allow us to exhibit in the MusicIP booth at SXSW this week. Including displaying our logo!

MusicBrainz provides:

  • One free live data feed for MusicIP’s use.
  • The right for MusicIP to sub-license the MusicBrainz data to their customers as part of their product offering — at full list price. MusicIP takes no cut.
  • Community support of the Open Fingerprint Architecture library. Many of the exact details on where the source code will live still need to be worked out over the next few weeks.

As you can see, the deck is stacked much in our favor. MusicIP has gone above and beyond the call of duty to setup this relationship. We’re all very excited by this new partnership, since it extends our reach into the commercial realm and welcomes MusicIP into the open source world. We are also announcing a partnership with the Creative Commons where MusicBrainz will now be able to track Creative Commons licenses.

Due to all of this, there has been a lot of frantic development at MusicBrainz over the last 8 weeks. Moving to a new colocation facility, more bandwidth, more servers, a new web service and a new text search were all in preparation for today. As you may have noticed, the MusicBrainz service has been a little bit more spotty as we’ve worked hard to push out new features and move to the new colo. The good news is that we’ve brought more database servers online to help spread the load to more machines as people come to investigate our new version of the Picard Tagger. Hopefully the web site should still respond well even if the replicated servers are working hard to handle the new web service traffic for Picard 0.7.0. Once I return from SXSW, I’ll be focusing on getting the service stable, better documented and generally ready for the future.

Last, but certainly not least, I would like to thank Relatable for the use of their TRM fingerprint technology. Without Relatable MusicBrainz would’ve never been able to grow as fast as it has. I appreciate everything that Relatable has done for MusicBrainz, but MusicBrainz has simply outgrown TRM and it is time to move on. We will continue to provide the TRM service for another 6 months from today. If you have an application that uses TRM, please visit MusicDNS.org today to find out how you can migrate to this new fingerprinting service.

I bet there will be tons and tons of questions. I will batch up the questions and the post up follow up messages to try and respond to your questions.

Technorati Tags: ,

Site move (kinda) complete

We’ve moved into the new digs! While the main services are working, we still need to clean up many loose ends. Please bear with us as we configure various bits and pieces. Thanks! Technorati Tags: colo, service

We’ve moved into the new digs! While the main services are working, we still need to clean up many loose ends. Please bear with us as we configure various bits and pieces.

Thanks!

Technorati Tags: ,

Colocation move

The move to the new colocation facility at Digital West has started! Yesterday I spent quality time with our new servers moving them into a shared rack. We’ll move the service over to these new servers in the coming few days and then we will move the existing servers into this rack as well. Hopefully … Continue reading “Colocation move”

The move to the new colocation facility at Digital West has started! Yesterday I spent quality time with our new servers moving them into a shared rack. We’ll move the service over to these new servers in the coming few days and then we will move the existing servers into this rack as well. Hopefully ends users won’t see much change at all — we hope to limit our downtime to an hour or so while we copy data to the new servers.

Here are some pictures of the move (before we moved in, the back of the rack and the front of the rack):

before_move_in.jpg

rack_back.jpg

rack_front.jpg

Technorati Tags: ,

Server and $1000 donated

Yesterday was another great day for MusicBrainz! We had an anonymous benefactor donate a spiffy Athlon based 1U server with 2GB ram and RAID-1 SCSI drives. Three cheers to anonymous donors! Also, Matthew Mullenweg donated a cool $1000 to the MetaBrainz Foundation. Its not everyday that someone drops such a large donation on this project. … Continue reading “Server and $1000 donated”

Yesterday was another great day for MusicBrainz! We had an anonymous benefactor donate a spiffy Athlon based 1U server with 2GB ram and RAID-1 SCSI drives. Three cheers to anonymous donors!

Also, Matthew Mullenweg donated a cool $1000 to the MetaBrainz Foundation. Its not everyday that someone drops such a large donation on this project. (Hasn’t happened since Derek Sivers did it last year!)

Thank you very much, Matthew and Anonymous Donor!

Technorati Tags: , ,

Prix Ars Electronica 2006 invitation

MusicBrainz just received an invitation in the Digital Communities category for the Prix Ars Electronica 2006. We certainly fit the bill for this category, but I am not sure I have the time necessary to fill out the application. Would anyone be interested to help out with the application process? Technorati Tags: prix ars electronica, … Continue reading “Prix Ars Electronica 2006 invitation”

MusicBrainz just received an invitation in the Digital Communities category for the Prix Ars Electronica 2006. We certainly fit the bill for this category, but I am not sure I have the time necessary to fill out the application. Would anyone be interested to help out with the application process?


Technorati Tags: ,

Continue reading “Prix Ars Electronica 2006 invitation”